Very pleased with my M417,. I tried a cheap chinese Simmons scope on it with poor results. Installed the stock tactical sights and am now shooting quarter sized groups at 45 feet. Cool looking gun with enough power for squirrels. For the money you cant go wrong.

When I first saw this gun I thought," This is the coolest thing I sen since the air17 back in the '80's." I thought the sigts were a bit on the cheesy side but they are accurate. Crosman says the butt stock is replaceable but so far I failed to see that as happening. I'm lovin the fake magazine for storing pellet clips and the sight tool... very 80's air 15ish. I'm also liking the picitannys for putting on lasers, flashlights, various optics and sights and the under barrel one is perfect for... get this... a pistol bayonett. In all a fairly decent rifle. I was a bit put out by the fact that the gun is covered in plastic from muzzle to buttstock. I'd have liked a real steel barrel. Also nowhere on the gun can I find where it was made. I hope it was made in the USA and not "build it cheaper china".

Good looking and well made, great price. It is an accurate shooter right out of the box. I added an AR 15 carry handle,red dot sight and folding fore grip to finish it off. A warning must be added, the rails on the pump/grip and barrel/lower sling are pretty useless as is. You can not pump if you add anything to these rails as they are, I had to remove the lower barrel sling loop/rail in order to add a foregrip and still be able to pump. If you want to add a fore grip it must be the folding type to work.

I'm totally loving this gun. I just had a squirrel climbing my livingroom window screen. 10 pumps and I guarantee he will never climb another screen... that is unless heaven has screens, but he will no longer be a pest here. That hunt took me back in time to the late 80's in germany when a group of us shot a boar with our m-16's but that is anothe story. Point is, this is an awsome squirrel hunting gun. You can pump it up load it and leave it ready to shoot for hours and be ready for that special moment. Works in any temprature just fine.

Its a great gun, and the price is right. Its very accurate and I have found that the Crosman Destroyer EX pellets are the best (Crosman hollow points were the worst) shooting out of my M417, and I have shot every .177 size pellet crosman makes through it. I shot it tonight and I put 17 out of 20 pellets in the 1 inch bulls eye and the other 3 were just outside of it, and that was at 25 yards, and It can put a pellet through a grapefruit at 25 yards with ease as well. I would highly recommend this gun to any one, no matter what their experince level, any one would like this gun. It looks awesome, easily customized, has storage in the clip, very accurate and light weight. Im glad I found it, and Im also glad I was able to get one of the first ones made so It has "M417" above the clip instead of "M4-177". The only thing I would like to change is higher fps and maybe a PCP version but thats no biggie the gun is excellent like it is.

this gun is the best that i have had

i just saw this thing an its amazang

good looking and accurate

great gun killed many squirrels with this gun i was not thinking it was gone to be accurate but i thought wrong

best gun ever for the money i have a nitro piston but the m417 out shootes up to 50 yards great gun.

The day I sighted mine in I killed two birds! Great gun for the money

I bought the M417 to add to my collection, I received it anbd right out iof the box is fires well and does everything it is advertised to do. Really laying on the table it has very little differences to the real M4. I think for the money it is a vey well designed rifle, copied after the M4 Tactial Aslt. Rifle system carrier. Nice for the cost.
All the others that complained about the cheapness or the plastic feel. Its a BB/Pellet rifle that fires .177 and 4.5. Its is not a 9 or 12 mm tach rifle.
I think it goes rather nicley with my collection of air rifles. Crosman makes a very nice system.

This gun is cool and different. I like this gun alot but i would really like a high powered co2 version of this gun. I personally don't like the way one has to load bbs into a mag and the other bbs rattle in the reservoir . If the clip used the co2 and held bbs or pellets and thats what the gun fired that would be really cool. It looks like you tried to combine an M4 and the old M-16. If you make it fire with co2 and used the clip as the actual clip this gun would be amazing. And put quad rails for various attachments it would surpass everybody's expectations.

I was a little skeptical at the thought of an AR style airgun at first. But after my first sighted in group at 25 yards was under the size of a quarter, I was impressed.
The M417/M4-177 (mine is the original 417) is an extremely accurate air rifle. Crosman is on to something good with this little airgun.

Coolest air rifle I've seen in a long time. I used to have the old M16 look -a-like but this is much more realistic. First shot after attaching a red dot point sight hit the top of a 20oz soda bottle at 25 feet. I also attached a tactical sling for easier carrying. A semi-auto CO2 version would be great!

Nice Rifle , have only one complaint with it and that is the fore stock grip where the picatinny mount stops the hand grip there has rather pointy edges , wish it would have been rounded slightly more .
Very accurate rifle .
Older M-417

I just got my M4177 today put 3-9 scope on it put target out at 20 yds put 5 shots in dime size group first time, also shot pellet into 2by6 pressure treated board and went in 1" hope to take it hunting for rabbits tomorrow hope to get the clip kit so can have extras loaded fast reloading!!!! I think its a real nice gun!!!!

I am young, under the age of 18 but I can still handle this weapon with a high level of effeciency, very accurate and light wieght. I hope to purchase a new optic and a vertical foregrip soon.

this is my 1st gun and I love it! works good and is accurate. the only con is that u have to push the magazine in pretty hard or it will either fall out or wont shoot.

ok i just bought this gun it is great! i put a old 4x32 rifle scope on it and it is verry accruate lots of power and looks cool

Its a good beginners gun...but if you cant afford this get the Crosman 760.Over-all the gun it-self is made mostly of polymer and a few metal part's for example polymer barrel,polymer rail's,and etc.The M4-177 has a DMR look when you add a High Powered Scope...The power is average as most pump guns going 600-800 fps.

I have had pellet guns for 25 years crosman hit this out of the park this thing is by far the best looking airgun i have ever seen, i like the variable displacement guns for different conditions unlike break barrel or co2, perfect for around the yard!

this guns iv had it for a few months i just cant stop shooting it but its tha bomb with a red dot sight all i can say buy it in fact its makes dasiys pump air guns look crap

I enjoy this gun. I've managed to get decent groups at closer ranges. Not much for longer ranges being a smooth bore, but an optic would prolly tighten that up quite a bit. I was impressed with the quality when I first opened it. I mean its not a tank, but it is made better than expected. The sights are of good quality except for the the actual apertures themselves they seem pretty cheap. They function as they should though and are fully adjustable. I think that my daughter will enjoy it when she gets a little older because of the adjustable stock as well.

i bought this gun the other day and i am impressed. it is a fairly accurate gun and once i put a 4x32 scope on it i was shooting quarter inch groups at 25 yards.I am not too fond of all the plastic and i wish crosman would put more metal on it to make it feel more realistic.over all good gun but too much plastic. it would also be cool if crosman made a semi auto metal pcp m16 style air rifle

It looks and fells great. Shoots real good. Just fun!

Really nice piece. I see the reviews from others, I have to add this is a Pellet rifle, (bb's too), so the outter shell being plastic is a given, and its just fine. I tried the sights that came with it and they were cool, but when I added the BSA red-dot and tuned it in, * putting the red dot on the tip of the front sight. This rifle became a nail driver. I sat and sand bagged it on a picnic table and with a target at 20 yards, I put 5 shots into a dime sized group.. I'm very impressed. As for accuracy, I put up a dime sized gum ball and one shot and I hit it at 20 yards.... Now, just like a real rifle / ammo, I stuck with the same pellets I tuned it for. I found the crossman pointed field pellets were the right ones...
The steel barrel being rifled, I'll never shoot bb's throught it, and I'd think and hope that anyone that would purchase and own this rifle would do the same.. I'm going back to the store to buy 2 maybe 3 more, my daughters are wanting one of their own now.

Nice looking gun but what would make it even better is if you make the clip functional like on your 1077 gun.

I just got my m4 it is all the hype says it is and more! The only thing I had to do was adjust the front sight for elevation and the gun puts'em where I aim out to 35 yards so far as that is the max for my backyard range. Iam looking forward to doing some pesting with this gun! This really is a cool shooter.

This is amazing the M4.177 is not just cool looking but the hype is true this has got to be one of the most accurate non C02 rifles ever, well worth the price i consistantly shoot 3"-4" groups at 50yrds with stock hard sights "NO CRAP" if you dont have one get one......

I have 2 of the m417 models. I have extensively worked with one in an outdoor ballistics area I set up on 10 acres of land. I have killed several squirrels with mine but it was done under 25 yards. Honestly, no airgun of this price and muzzle velocity is good for more than 30 yards realistically and most air gunning is done within that range. That being said, this is a good can killer and squirrel killer IF you are 10 yards or so from the squirrel and hit it right in the heart.

I got this for Christmas and it works great. I have killed about 20 squirells with this using just pointed pellets. I did notice it was just as loud as the pumpmaster 760 so i built a suppressor for it. The suppressor doesn't effect the range or accuracy of the bullet and just slides on the end.

Very Good and a hole lot of fun to shoot

Well, I brought one home and enjoyed mine so much, my daughters (13, 21, & 28 yrs.of age got to enjoy it also), I ended up buying 3 more of these. Now they have their own now and can leave mine alone... 2 of them I mounted the BSA red-dot like mine, and the other I mounted a weaver riser and a Bushnell 6-18x50 ajd.Ob. for the 21 yr.old. Now insted of buying girly stuff they go to the sporting goods department and buy pellets, and targets, LOL. Thank You guys for building an awesome multi-pump rifle. Now insted of smelling nail polish remover in the living room (while it's family TV time), now I smell Hoppie's Oil.... J. Running Wind

I RECENTLY BOUGHT THE M4-177 AND FELL IN LOVE WITH IT. IT HAS DECENT POWER PRETTY MUCH NO RECOIL UNLIKE MY BROTHERS BREAK BARREL AND IT LOOKS SWEET. ALTHOUGH I HAD TROUBLE WITH THE PLASTIC SIGHTS I ATTACHED A 4X32 SCOPE AND I AM NOW HITTING WHAT EVER I POINT AT. GREAT JOB CROSMAN!!!

First of all, its a great air rifle! The only thing that confused me some was that you had to put the iron sights on. I was a first time user and did not know where to place them and how far away they should be and such. Also, the owners Manual never mentioned anything about removing the stock, which i found out later that you could do from youtube. Another Con is that the Stock is plastic and broke after adjusting the stock multiple times. I will now have to send it in and have it repaired. i can still shoot, but without as much accuracy. Overall, its a great gun as well as pest control rifle.

I just bought the M4177 BB/Pellet Rifle and it was nice except, the screws on the pump handle towards the front were loose.( and could not be tighten) So I took it back and Exchanged it for another which when I searched they had an M417 box still on the shelf. So i got it instead. awesome!! Shoots great, I will have to set my sights in tomorrow. thanks Crossman keep up the good work.

I owned a AR 17 way back in the 80s - 90? I loved the look of the gun, but had issues getting it sighted in. I hated giving that one up, but it just didn't do what I wanted from it. I got another brand rifle, but always regret giving up the old AR-17....then I saw this beauty at Wal-Mart and bought it on the spot. I switched out the rear sights with a carry handle sight. I am in the process of changing out the front sights too (All metal). Its not that the original sights are not good, its just not the look I wanted. The rifle is light, but feels solid. and the metal sight add alittle more weight to the rifle. Once sighted in, the accuracy is decent. My M4-17 looks like the M4-117 now. The only complaint I have is the rail on the underside of the pump handle. After serveral rounds of pumping, the bottom rails start to make the pumping action uncomortable (hence the 4 stars). Other than that - Its an excellent rifle for the price. Love it...love the look, love the performance - but remove the underside rail on the pump handle...if that happens - this rifle would be 5 stars!

I love this new pellet/BB rifle. I purchesed this AR style rifle for my son. It has just the right amount of length of pull for him. many BB/pellet guns have too long of pull for him. he will be able to transition over to the real deal soon thanks to this great platform.

The M4-177 is a fantastic air rifle, but not perfect. I really like the rifled barrel and the integrated rail system from the factory, but it could be better. The rail on the pump lever is not useable do to the fact the pump action interferes with any accessories placed on the bottom rails. Also, if rails were placed on the side of the barrel, and not just top and bottom, it would increase accessory placement. The internal bb magazine is a nice touch and holds over 18 rounds along with a reservoir holding up to 350 bb rounds. The pellet clips hold up to 5 rounds and slide in easily from the side. Storage comes in the form of a fake mag with enough room to store various small items. It secures on each side and seems to hold well. The variable pump is easy to use and adds to the versatility with reasonable power at 625 bb and 600 pellet. The adjustable stock is nice, but would be better if it had a little weight added to it. The dual ammo capability is great and accuracy is good with either, but those looking for the best accuracy should use pellets. Overall, the design and appearance of the M4-177 is beautiful. It is a good-looking air rifle modeled after a classic US military rifle. The gun is sturdy and built well. I definitely recommend this air rifle to anyone looking for appearance and performance with a reasonable price tag.

I bought this gun to do some fairly long range target shooting. Well. long range for a .177 caliber pellet gun. Maybe 40-75 yards. First off, this gun was totally inaccurate with Copperhead bb's. It would load two at a time unless I was very careful and cocked the gun very slowly. If I quickly cocked it, I would almost always get two bb's in the breech. Second, if the gun was jarred even slightly with the barrel pointed down, the bb would roll out of the barrel. Ok, that's fine I thought. I bought it for long range shooting anyway. With pellets, the gun loaded them great. With crosman premier pellets the best I could do was about an 8 inch cluster of five pellets at 40 yards with zero wind. I was disappointed, but it was only an $80 rifle. And I read that it needed about 500 shouts to get broke in. Ok, cool i'll wait and get it broke in properly i said to myself. The problem is that the piece of plastic that the pump hinges on broke along with another part of the pump mechanism that was probably collateral damage broke before I made it through my first tin of 250 pellets. It lasted maybe 175-200 shots. That was it. I now have to send it in to be repaired but honestly I don't want the gun anymore. Is it going to break again after 200 shots? All the problems and disappointments I had I was ready to live with on account of it being a cheaper air gun, but when I spend 80 dollars of hard earned on something I expect a certain amount of quality. Maybe I could have bought the $40 one and still be shooting it. I have had several Crosman pellet guns in the past and all have been bulletproof except this one. With it breaking so easily and having the problems loading bb's, I with I had spend more life $150 and gotten an all metal rifle. The only positive thing I can say about the gun is that it has a SWEET trigger pull.

When i first bought this rifle it shoots quarter size shots at 25 yards

I have loved this gun since the day I got it. It can kill a bird, first shot at fifty yards. Over all this is the best pellet gun I have ever had!!!!!

Pros; It's weight is just perfect. I like the removable dual aperture rear sight and the removable adjustablefront post sight. It's accuracy is very good. The removable adjustable stock is also a neat feature. The storage box is a neat idea. The fore end grip helps when pumping. It has Picatinny rails which most sights fit. It shoots a good distance. It also looks realistic and cool. It hols a good amount of bb's. Fair price.
Cons: A little hard to pump at first ( just like most guns) but eventually becomes eaiser. I wish the charging handle was acutally used like a real gun. When i bought the gun i was hoping the bb's were acculaty placed in the storage box.
Overall: Buy it, you won't regret it.